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(4)Legacy Of The Dragoon
Map ID: #2448
Author: Jk)Valkyrion, Pimped By Excalibur
Map Size: 128*128
Tileset: Jungle
Last Updated: 2007, 08, 28 13:35
Comments (6)
ProTosS4EveR
I prefer old version. :[
Excalibur
All right.
This was my attempt at pimping Alliance Of The Dragoon, but it was also something else.
On my last map i went off on a bit of a rant, and i blamed people who werent to blame for it. Let me explain.
Over on maplantis there is a serious lack of melee talent. Over-all im one of the top people on the site and you know how bad my maps are. I try to direct people here so that they might get better at melee mapping, because i know maplantis cant offer them what BWMN can in that area.
These people had previous issues with me and were looking for reasons to bitch, which they found and did. It was not the fault of anyone here, and i shouldnt of said what i had said.
I apologize completely and in doing so id like to attempt to do something productive and effectively pimp this map.
But first on a quote Nightmarjoo gave me that i really felt i needed to say something to:
"In every single map one makes, one should learn something."
I know it may seem that when i post here, im not learning anything from map to map. But i can honestly say ive been trying. Trying to learn and improve and there are somethings im just never going to be good at and i accept that melee mapping is probobly one of them. But im going to keep on trying, even if i never make a map thats truely effectively balanced.
Now on to the map.
I had to re-do the map because im cowardly and addicted to the mirror tool, im sorry for anyone who dislikes that. I added a min block at the close island and balanced the main's ramps with inverts. I copied the doodads from the middle of the original to try and keep the feel of it.
My concerns:
The cliffs obviously, T-tank-ownage, i have no idea what to do.
Gas. I have read the gass issue article and see that this map probobly has the gas-issue.
I have no idea how to fix it because article or not i still dont understand the gas issue or why its so important, i apologize for this.
I know it may not be all that good, but i needed to say sorry and i was bored at 5am and needed something to do too.
-Excalibur
Edit:
I also know that someone like Testbug or nearly anyone else around here could do a better job. ): modified by Excalibur
Edit2:
Sorry i got mixed up. The orig was Alliance, i renamed this Legacy beacuse i felt it fit. modified by Excalibur
flothefreak
where is the pimped version?
BestTarsier
Excalibur you're a decent mapper but you're rather rude.. When I first signed up on maplantis the first thing you did was insult me. No wonder you're getting in fights there/here.
About the map, I don't see what is wrong with it balance-wise, the nats being tankable I think is a popular thing (LT has it) so I don't know why you'd be worried about that. I'd like to see the original version as well, but I really like this, nice job.
flothefreak
you dont see the difference between a classic cliff and this one? on a classic cliff you can counterdrop against terran (although it being the most effective droprace when it comes to standard battle units). on this cliff, you wont be able because terran can just load unit from the nat onto the cliff - which means if terran expands you need a shuttle before you can even take your _nat_. plus, terran will be able to drop reinforcements heavily and quickly which will make you lose your cliff.
ever played PvT 12vs3? you have no natural in this matchup/position.
Excalibur
All right. I tried to fix the problem you mentioned Flo, dont know if i did or not. ):
This was my attempt at pimping Alliance Of The Dragoon, but it was also something else.
On my last map i went off on a bit of a rant, and i blamed people who werent to blame for it. Let me explain.
Over on maplantis there is a serious lack of melee talent. Over-all im one of the top people on the site and you know how bad my maps are. I try to direct people here so that they might get better at melee mapping, because i know maplantis cant offer them what BWMN can in that area.
These people had previous issues with me and were looking for reasons to bitch, which they found and did. It was not the fault of anyone here, and i shouldnt of said what i had said.
I apologize completely and in doing so id like to attempt to do something productive and effectively pimp this map.
But first on a quote Nightmarjoo gave me that i really felt i needed to say something to:
"In every single map one makes, one should learn something."
I know it may seem that when i post here, im not learning anything from map to map. But i can honestly say ive been trying. Trying to learn and improve and there are somethings im just never going to be good at and i accept that melee mapping is probobly one of them. But im going to keep on trying, even if i never make a map thats truely effectively balanced.
Now on to the map.
I had to re-do the map because im cowardly and addicted to the mirror tool, im sorry for anyone who dislikes that. I added a min block at the close island and balanced the main's ramps with inverts. I copied the doodads from the middle of the original to try and keep the feel of it.
My concerns:
The cliffs obviously, T-tank-ownage, i have no idea what to do.
Gas. I have read the gass issue article and see that this map probobly has the gas-issue.
I have no idea how to fix it because article or not i still dont understand the gas issue or why its so important, i apologize for this.
I know it may not be all that good, but i needed to say sorry and i was bored at 5am and needed something to do too.
-Excalibur
Edit:
I also know that someone like Testbug or nearly anyone else around here could do a better job. ):
modified by Excalibur
Edit2:
Sorry i got mixed up. The orig was Alliance, i renamed this Legacy beacuse i felt it fit.
modified by Excalibur
About the map, I don't see what is wrong with it balance-wise, the nats being tankable I think is a popular thing (LT has it) so I don't know why you'd be worried about that. I'd like to see the original version as well, but I really like this, nice job.
ever played PvT 12vs3? you have no natural in this matchup/position.