how many temples are there? anybody knows? :X

15.

no temples*10 , front minerals block 0*4
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I just get good idea in tvz. Make fast firebats and destroy temples with them and rush to the main. x_x
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lol, one single tank will make more damage than 18 firebats
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18 * 16 = 288 which > 70, thus 18 firebats does more damage than a single tank.

Siabbo, zerg will place an ovy there specifically, as well as lings to know when t moves out. And, zergs take the min only as their 3rd hatch, so making sunks is no problem if t is rushing. And if t isn't rushing, zerg will have plenty of units to defend from such an attack, and if he doesn't, the game is either already over, or terran has left himself open to counter most likely.

And they do it faster.

I have get some wins with 2 barracks --> academy. 12 marines, 4 medics, and 4-6 firebats. And if zerg have to make sunkens to minonly it will slow down zerg cuz zerg needs 3-4 sunkens to hold them.

"18 * 16 = 288 which > 70"
actually its

18 * 3.5 = 63
firebat dmg 8x2
armor reduce its 7x2
dmg type etc its 1.75x2
3.5 dmg deals 3 dmg first attack 4 dmg second, etc

wow morrow where you read all this :D

hm

y=mx+b

ohhh i totally forgot temple's armor!
then 1 tank > 19 firebats

a single tank: 70-1=69
19 firebts : 19 * 3.5 = 66.5

LasTCursE said:
"wow morrow where you read all this :D "

lol this is the funniest thing i've read in the whole month!!

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lol i didnt read this. its general facts firebats does 25% dmg to buildings and have 2 hits just like zealots t.t

looks like nightmarjoo didn't know that too :P

I wasn't thinking. I knew it.

i want to point out that the author did a good job making a backdoor _in the front of the main_ without fucking up pathing. very smooth and intelligently made.

havent played it, speaking under the impression units move out passing the natural.

Yes, they usually do. TvP is impossible on this though.

TvP is impossible on this though.

Becausee?

Look at the pro stats.
Then look at the middle.

PvT: 35-16 (68.6%)

That's Flash's TvP win rate :P

Why do they put out imba garbage like this?

Either insuffecient practice games (unlikely)

Or they wanted to bring a new concept in the pro map.

This probably fits into the second as it's conceptually a very daring map.
DMZ, Persona, and Plasma all fit into the latter as well.

and demon's forest xD


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wow, thanks Johnny B.Goode for the rep!!
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