Just a little preview of what I am working at at the moment...
Criticism on layout is welcome, complaints about lack of deco or whatever are autofail...
modified by freakling

DL broken

OMG why would you download it in this state...

So i can look closer. O.o

I absolutely love it so far. I hope the creep doesn't interfere with walling the ramp though. The mains' shape is a little ugly atm.

I might be forced to write up all the pending MOTMs just so I can post this as motm once you finish it :O

Please finish and perfect it!

also, deco sucks

Sick map :D

i think that all the area around the 3rd gas is way too tight, you can't stop a push in the a decent way there

Wow... Marjoo "absolutely loves" one of my maps O_o. But he's fail now, so maybe I shouldn't listen :P

The creep has the same mechanics as on Outland, btw, so it won't interfere with Toss or Terran wallin - for the simp0le reason that there won't be no creep.
For Zerg however it allows two hatch builds and to take the Nat before the minonly and still be able to defend the ranp with sunkens.

P4E hit the Nail on the head, however. The main reason why I am posting this now is that I have a feeling that a terran push through that tight sunken ground path could be nearliy unstopable.
I could just give up the idea of a backdoor to the minonly or put the 3rd directly at the backdoor, but with already easily defended Nat and minonly both solutions would bring the map closer to ugly turtle land...
modified by freakling

I like red's main.

Haha, funny guy...
modified by freakling

damn love this map :P can't wait to see it finished :D

plz make a rmk of the map of starcraft 2 extincion to starcraft broodwar plz the map its awesome but needs in the stracraft 1 plz make

I like what ur doing with the mains :D

Just a rough idea of how to overhaul the 3rds. Needs some tweaks, of course:
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modified by Freakling

...Bump...
Oh, come on - no opinions?

The area your placing the third in seems tight.
The area outside of the main directed towards middle of map where dirt meets crushed rock seems OPEN and the sunken pit areas seem TIGHT. It might be easier and more contributing to the flow of the map to place the third after you take some of the OPEN and give it to the TIGHT.
To illustrate my point:


It just dosn't seem like there is enough room for a third AND a path with the layout you have without it being akward
BTW I love the main nat min-only setup you have
modified by Phobic

And freakling goes


modified by Gnom

Oh, sry, wasn't ment to disturb at all, just to force a smile on you mapper minds. ;)

As to the map I'd agree with Phobic;
the 3rds look weird like this, though i really like that concept of your middle to north|south|west|east!

the thing you suggested in your previous post is great, but the paths are so different (differing from player to player)..
if you could just transfer that to the other 3rds?

Of course I'd redo all the 3rds...

It's the area your trying to place the 3rd in that is the problem, not the 3rd its self.

There's no other possible area where you could place a 3rd and also there's nothing one could reasonably do with that space but put an expansion there O_o

Innovate your map!!!!

Get the expo in the middle OUT! and... you are loosing your touch...

You might just need to redo the whole thing....

Lolwhat? Loosing my touch O_o
Here's a touch of my personal pink for you...

That looks a lot better. The mains are still big enough too.
Is the pathing messed up?
modified by K_A

Definetly wins the contest of weird looking pictures :D

I really don't like how the map turned out :(

Did you ever try lucid dreaming? Its a fascinating issue..

I don't like the neutrals (the eggs)

All of them or just certain some?
modified by Freakling

All of them.. they are weird,tight and have strange gas placement :D


(i on the other hand like this map alot tho^^)
modified by LasTCursE

What the heck are you talking about?!

THE NATS
modified by LasTCursE

weird - ibviously non-standard...
tight - how much space would you want - and what for?
strange gas - define "strange"

Fix download.

Fixed, observer version coming soon...
modified by Freakling

1 Map looks to tight.
2 Map is good looking.
3 Path issue?
4 Positional IMBA

1 Tight but not linear and rather open in every spot. So there's still a lot of room to flanc
2 ...
3 I could move the tight ramps a bit towards the edges. I'll also remove most or all of the eggs.
4 How?

Min only can be sieged from behind the back of the eggs. o.o

I have not read maps comments, but is there bath issue on this thing?
If there is not, I think the map is kick ass!

Update coming ... some time in the future ... Will remove all the egg stuff and move minonly backdoors a bit...

Nice edit
Only thing I would say now is that the middle expo looks kinda funky.

modified by Phobic

Er... NOT an edit?

Yea but from my last comment theres been one, I must have missed it.

lings can pass through the bottom part of the egg wall in the middle, and nowhere else

I don't like the name of this map cuz it makes me think of wet dreams

So that's what you use lucid dreaming for... Interesting to know.
modified by Freakling

no, because it happens subconsciously.

I thought the whole point of lucid dreaming is to overcome those subconcious bastards...

Err... is it just me, or did the arbiter and eggs magically dissapear?..

I like this alot more without the arbs and eggs

I don't like your inverted high dirt ramps you have in this map, freakling. They look ugly, imo.

Freakling does whatever he wants with ramps :D

i'd like this map more if they didn't have eggs or arbs too, but they're still in the map if you DL it

This map's awesome but the middle is too tight

UPDATE:
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- removed all egg walls
- opened up middle pathes a bit
- added observer version with a little lullaby

Lol if players fall asleep ^^

There's also some trademark zergling scream at the end of it, that should wake them up.