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A brief guide to CREEP SPAWNERS (by Freakling)
(3)Demonio Azul
Map ID: #4536
Author: LasTCursE; Edited by Freakling
Map Size: 128*128
Tileset: Twilight
Last Updated: 2017, 08, 31 18:45
Comments (36)
Freakling
My work-in-progress edit of (3)Blue Devil...
Another edit I am working on, also currently still in its infancy stages, just posted it to give you the idea and get some feedback.
Positional balance will be accounted for...
So far it's not even playable yet, but all the changes I wanted to make are sketched out. modified by Freakling
CrystalDrag
Ah i see now that i flickered between the two different pictures.
I look forward to updates :)
asiantraceur
I like this :D reminds me of...uhh..i dunno...cant think of which map it was...moon glaive?
Nightmarjoo
Cool. Are the mains big enough?
Freakling
Baring minor adaptions, they are.
Actually I am wondering how you are not pointing out how they are totally too big ;P modified by Freakling
Freakling
I consider this version playable. Deco yet needs to be refinished...
I am wondering whether I should make the mein chokes (partially) unbuildable or not... I guess having an even-ground choke that's wallable with only one building is all right, though... modified by Freakling
Freakling
Done.
Freakling
Observer version added.
And the top spawn has hallucinated minerals to force worker spawn on the right side now.
sTY_leZerG-eX
Hey guys! Just paying a little visit ;) mice maps Freakling! U have been busy
Freakling
Update: version 2.01
* tightened natural chokes
* tightened ramps to thirds
* moved ramp to third and mineral only on left side, to improve on symmetry
* some small terrain adjustments here and there...
* debugged and balanced resources
CardinalAllin
Hmm so we still never found out who made (3)Blue Devil. modified by CardinalAllin
Freakling
Their own fault...
JungleTerrain
If the original author of the map chooses to step out and claim it, I'm sure Freakling would be more than willing to give credit where it is due.
:)
Freakling
I am already crediting them, by the pseudonym of their choice.
Freakling
Mains are frickin crazy huge. do you think arbiters will be totally imba in TvP late game? modified by Freakling
CrystalDrag
it's still jungleterrains... flagstone is close enough to jungle.
also rhe map was left unfinished...
and jungle smiled up there...
judging from te spawn positions, if protoss spawns cohnterxlockwise then the arbiter has to tr el a long was to avoid terran's amry moving out
clokwise spawning terran is pushing that way anyway, and protoss has to fo in clockwise..
JungleTerrain
no haha its actually not mine
Freakling
Sorry, crystal, I think your typo level exceeded the critical threshold of indistinguishability there, so I am not 100% positive I get what you meant all the time:
"judging from t[h]e spawn positions, if protoss spawns cohnterx[c]lockwise then the arbiter has to tr[av]el a long wa[y]s to avoid terran's a[rm]mry moving out[,]
clo[c]kwise spawning terran is pushing that way anyway, and protoss has to fo[fe?!] in clockwise [direction].. "
^Is this what you meant?
Jungle, you are a terran player: What do you say about Arbiter threat levels?
CrystalDrag
Yess
i suppose it could be stylezerg...
or testbug or nightmarjoo
i guess being a random player means im not that good at knowin balance :) modified by CrystalDrag modified by CrystalDrag
Freakling
Too well executed for Nightmarjoo.
Testbug wouldn't have made the middle the way it was originally.
STyleZerg... could be... But I cannot remember him smurfing ever before.
JungleTerrain
Arbiter threat levels?
Arbiters are very threatening in general.
1 recall can quickly decide the game...
If you are worried about how easy/difficult an arbiter has it to get to somebody's main, I would just say to not worry about it because something as lategame as such a scenario would be difficult to "balance".
Besides, a Protoss player will always find a way to get a recall off.
Freakling
Map description now says:
"Laplace's demon knows, who made this map."
;) modified by Freakling
Freakling
Update for map pack
- changed nats
Freakling
Gonna ask fry, if they accept this one, too, even though author is unknown...
Freakling
observer version fixed.
Freakling
Update
- narrowed ramps to 3rds
- updated resources to fit my current standards
CardinalAllin
Good change with the smaller ramp.
Freakling
Yeah, it needed to be, because with as few expos as this and a clear precedence to expand counterclockwise for a third, that safer 3rd gas wass needed, I think.
outscar
Who else thinks that SCII maps are looking like cartoon in comparison with original?
Freakling
Everything in SC2 looks, and sounds, like plastic. I guess plastic's modern nowadays.
Freakling
Update to version 2.05
Added additional ramps to the centre plateau.
Freakling
Update to version 2.06
some fine tuning to all the middle ramps, taking terrain levels from my ramp catalogue into account.
fixed a vision bug where you could get ground vision of part of the 5 o'clock minonly from the adjacent main through the vertical cliff.
updated observer verion.
Fixed another vision bugged, caused by a faulty doodad, that allowed units from the low ground at the 5 o'clock 3rd to partially look up the ramp.
modified by Freakling
JungleTerrain
oh nice! I didn't know u had a TL thread for your maps. and the ramp catalog is nice
Freakling
Update: Version 2.07
changed some cliff corner tiles in the wall around the mains that did not block vision correctly due to lack of sufficient medium ground subtiles (which made them being considered low ground for LOS determination)
various pathing bug fixes and optimizations for bases in the SE quadrant of the map (rest had no problems remaining).
Another edit I am working on, also currently still in its infancy stages, just posted it to give you the idea and get some feedback.
Original map:
modified by Freakling
Blue natural tankability
So far it's not even playable yet, but all the changes I wanted to make are sketched out.
modified by Freakling
I look forward to updates :)
Actually I am wondering how you are not pointing out how they are totally too big ;P
modified by Freakling
I am wondering whether I should make the mein chokes (partially) unbuildable or not... I guess having an even-ground choke that's wallable with only one building is all right, though...
modified by Freakling
And the top spawn has hallucinated minerals to force worker spawn on the right side now.
* tightened natural chokes
* tightened ramps to thirds
* moved ramp to third and mineral only on left side, to improve on symmetry
* some small terrain adjustments here and there...
* debugged and balanced resources
modified by CardinalAllin
:)
modified by Freakling
also rhe map was left unfinished...
and jungle smiled up there...
judging from te spawn positions, if protoss spawns cohnterxlockwise then the arbiter has to tr el a long was to avoid terran's amry moving out
clokwise spawning terran is pushing that way anyway, and protoss has to fo in clockwise..
"judging from t[h]e spawn positions, if protoss spawns cohnter
x[c]lockwise then the arbiter has to tr[av]el a long wa[y]sto avoid terran's a[rm]mry moving out[,]clo[c]kwise spawning terran is pushing that way anyway, and protoss has to
fo[fe?!] in clockwise [direction].. "^Is this what you meant?
Jungle, you are a terran player: What do you say about Arbiter threat levels?
i suppose it could be stylezerg...
or testbug or nightmarjoo
i guess being a random player means im not that good at knowin balance :)
modified by CrystalDrag
modified by CrystalDrag
Testbug wouldn't have made the middle the way it was originally.
STyleZerg... could be... But I cannot remember him smurfing ever before.
Arbiters are very threatening in general.
1 recall can quickly decide the game...
If you are worried about how easy/difficult an arbiter has it to get to somebody's main, I would just say to not worry about it because something as lategame as such a scenario would be difficult to "balance".
Besides, a Protoss player will always find a way to get a recall off.
"Laplace's demon knows, who made this map."
;)
modified by Freakling
- changed nats
- narrowed ramps to 3rds
- updated resources to fit my current standards
Added additional ramps to the centre plateau.
modified by Freakling